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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2010, 07:24:56 PM »

Eric
I think we should leave it the way it is.
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wesracing
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2010, 11:16:13 PM »

mod9,
     I am not 100% sure of everything they do but I do know they deck and mill the head and block to give you the most piston pop up per USAC rulebook. This process takes a lot of the "blueprinting" out of the equation. Since they can do that machining, you no longer have to look for that crank,rod,piston, etc., that is at the limit on tolerance, to give you the most hp. Also, that $500 motor from briggs does not have a $200 gearbox and it may or may not have the splined crank that you need for the gear box.
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crew chief
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2010, 08:30:12 PM »


What do you think about making Jr Animal 5-9 and Sr Animal 10-16?
[/quote]  I would just leave it at jr 5-8 and sr 9-16 and would like to see sr at 275lbs not 295 lbs just my 2 cents
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2010, 12:34:23 PM »

I would suggest changing the weight to 295 lbs until there are enough for a heavy class to even things out. Or at least make things a little closer.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2010, 12:53:58 PM »

I agree Ezoner- there currently are not enough total animals to run 3 different classes- but by increasing the weight for seniors it will make it easier for the bigger/heavier kids to compete until there are enough for a Senior and heavy class.

Regarding Junior, LEAVE IT ALONE, it's good the way it is- we don't need anymore Brainiac changes like this new bs exhaust deal all because it needs to "sound better". I don't care if it sounds like a weed wacker- but I do care about the $150-$200 I'm going to have to drop to get the new exhaust. Or maybe I'll just put my Animal up for sale and be done with it. Anybody want to place a bid on the baddest Jr Animal engine in the country?
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2010, 03:33:22 PM »

sorry last i checked sprague wasn't selling his baker jr animal Grin
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2010, 06:39:59 PM »

I was wondering why I couldn't keep up with you guys on the track. Lets start the season over with the Jr Animal so I can get these updates. I was tired of catching the rubber coming off the back of your cars.    Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2010, 07:45:02 PM »

I personally feel that USAC is giving the notice of the new exhaust rule on the animal with plenty of time. What do we have like 3-4 months to work it in the budget before the first Midwest thunder race at the end of February. If you can't budget in $150-$200 in this amount of time, then I think you are in the wrong sport. Besides, nobody has said you have to buy this exhaust. If you don't have the money, run your old one!!  As for adding more to the weight limit in sr.animal, I am running out of places to put weight in the car to get 295. Just my opinion!
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2010, 07:54:48 AM »

lets think back here a little bit people when we were in the other sanctioning body you would of been kicked off the forum for discussing this and you would have to buy a new pipe and your old one would be illeagal with no vote
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2010, 08:07:04 AM »

I agree with og about freedom of voice on this forum. My opinion about the pipe is that with any new platform you have to expect x number of changes as the platform develops and becomes more seasoned and tested. Now, if they did they several times in several years, I would probably be the first person complaining about it, but I feel confident that the continuity in parts for the more tested and seasoned platforms shows that USAC is not looking to institute unnecessary changes to the rules that will incur costs to the members.

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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2010, 09:53:14 AM »

If you can't budget in $150-$200 in this amount of time, then I think you are in the wrong sport. Besides, nobody has said you have to buy this exhaust. If you don't have the money, run your old one!!

I couldn't agree more! 

Just take the money you would have spent on valve springs and valve cover gaskets this past season if you stayed in a Honda class and buy a pipe. Smiley
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Scott Freitas
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2010, 10:09:47 AM »

My point on the weight is if you want to grow the class, you need to make it fair for all and if you expect to run heavy with the smaller kids, the weight should go up on a temporary basis until it makes sense to split the heavy and standard class.  If you leave it at the light weight, I will be out as will any other heavy class drivers.  It wouldnt make sense to run with a 40lb difference.
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2010, 12:12:55 PM »

Here is my thought on the pipe:Yes it does sound good and every parent/"handler" is going to want there kid to have it because it looks good and it sounds good,I simply wanted to know if there was a advantage running the new pipe versus the old one? If so then i wasn't going to run the animal until i got the new pipe.I don't care if it cost $100.00 or $1000.00,I was talking about getting one before this weekend NOT the midwest thunder race.
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2010, 01:49:36 PM »

I honestly don't have anywhere else to put weight in my car and it still be safe.  The kids who  run senior at 9 years old are typically not big kids.  295 is already difficult enough.  You can't forget them unless you are going to change junior to include nine year olds and you'll lose some of the advanced kids from animal until they can run senior. 

As far as the pipe goes, it's always going to be about the next thing that provides an "advantage".  Innovation has driven the sport for 60 years.  I don't see that ever changing.  Someone always has the money to buy the "better" parts and manufacturers will always have influence on sanctioning bodies.  Unfortunately you must pay to keep up or get left behind.
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2010, 04:09:06 PM »

Never mind JP  I was thinking the weight was 275....  But at 295 I think I can get there, but it will be tough.  I can get close enough to say its set-up or the driver and not the weight.
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