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« on: October 31, 2010, 11:55:39 AM »

would someone be able to tell me what the differences are in the stock animal , local option 206 , and the m series.

i am looking to what the power difference is also.thanks
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 01:17:44 PM »

The M series already has the correct crankshaft and gear box and ignition on it for the quarter midgets.
The L.O. 206 also has the correct ignition but does not have a splined crank or gear box on it.you will have to purchase and install the correct crankshaft and gear box.
 I think the regular animal has a different ignition on it and it does not have the crank or gear box either.
 I purchased the L.O. 206 and installed the crank and gear box myself, while it was apart I measured everything and found it to be right at the specifications permitted by USAC rules therefore it did not need to be machined to be competetive.I also saved quite a bit of money doing this myself.
 These motors are quite impressive quality compared to the honda motors ,Everything from the carbs to the billet flywheel they are purpose built race motors.
 As far as power difference I could not tell you but after studying the Briggs website they list the L.O. 206 as having 9:1 compression vs. the M series at 8.5:1
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 05:04:15 PM »

Can anyone confirm if the compression difference is or is not an advantage?
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Kris Walker
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2010, 07:12:47 PM »

All the Animal engines past & present are 8.5 to 1 CR. This includes the standard Animal, LO206, LO206 Jr and the new Series M motors. If it was published at any time of 9.0 to 1 this was incorrectly stated.

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 02:23:04 PM »

so where do you get a m-series motor? i read on the briggs web site about them and i only have 1 question about he motor.does it come with a gear box? it say it comes with a splined crank but say nothing about the gear box. if they are quarter midget ready what is the price?
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 07:00:39 AM »

The M series engines are avalible from any Briggs Motorsports dealer now. The part number is 124332 8203-01. The engine does not come equipped with the gear box but it does have the correct splined crankshaft. The cost with the gear box added should be in the $700.00 range give or take a little. This cost is in stock form from Briggs and should meet the USAC 1.5 engine rules.

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2010, 09:27:24 PM »

if i get one of the m series briggs.where can i get a gear box for it.will a honda gear box fit on it?
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 07:29:21 AM »

mod9 - You can purchase gear box from any Briggs motorsports dealer. No, Honda gear box will not fit the Animal furthermore the USAC 1.5 rules require only the Briggs gear to be used. Hope this helps.

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2010, 12:58:42 PM »

mod9,
       Why don't you just give steve baker at baker racing engines a call and have him ship you one complete.In my opinion, you will not find a nicer, more complete motor builder, at least in the midwest.  I am sure he would be more than happy to help you out.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2010, 01:12:05 PM »

Could you restict an Animal to run with Honda 120 or 160's? Allowing the combining of the classes?
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2010, 01:51:14 PM »

I think that was the intention in the beginning but found that to get the 2 motors to run on an equal level it was nearly impossible. I believe that was with the restrictor plates though. It maybe a different situation if we were to run a different slide to restrict it. I do know with a different slide, they got them pretty close to run with the 120's in the rookie class. I believe the animal motor is currently allowed to run with the 120's in the rookie class.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2010, 04:07:12 PM »

I would hope they wouldn't try to combine the Jr classes.  The great part about having the Jr Animal is we can get our younger drivers more experience with an affordable platform.
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Scott Freitas
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2010, 03:18:46 AM »

I agree that it would not be beneficial to combine the 2 classes in the competitive classes. I have not even heard talk at any of the meetings to even attempt to combine anything other than rookies.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2010, 11:40:18 AM »

There is NO talk of combining those classes.
But -
What do you think about making Jr Animal 5-9 and Sr Animal 10-16?
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2010, 02:26:24 PM »

what do these engine builder do when they say blue printing the motor and are asking 1000.00 plus for a motor when i can buy a new one from briggs for less than 500.00?
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