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« on: July 16, 2009, 10:47:00 AM »

If stiffly valved shocks offer more resistance during chassis roll, & slow down the rate that weight transfer occurs - and if lightly valved shocks offer less resistance & more movement, then what consitutes a stiffly or lightly valved shock? Would you have "all" shocks stiff/light, or possibly mix & match? And is one preferable to the other depending upon your setup? Thoughts?
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Katherine Weaver
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2009, 10:55:47 AM »

It depends on too much stuff to give a simple answer. The range from Jr. Honda to Heavy AA is to great for a set rule. Also the track type, banking, asphault, concrete, dirt, temperature, make a big difference. The best thing to do is work with a shock/spring manufacturer. They spend a lot of time on the dyno and track testing. Saves you the grief of reinventing the wheel. I use ARS but there are several good ones.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2009, 11:25:06 AM »

Makes sense.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2009, 01:03:58 PM »

We use ARS shocks too and just bought another set of 4 shocks so we have additional valvings to try while working on setup.

I think Swartz hit the nail on the head though, car, track, weight, banking will all make a big difference on what shock will work the best.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 12:15:43 PM »

Are gas shocks the same as monutube shocks? And if so, are monutube shocks used on QM's?
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2009, 12:24:44 PM »

yes, most QM shocks are monotube. Read this.

http://www.shockshop.co.nz/HowShocksWork.asp
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2009, 01:10:49 PM »

Thanks, Swartz. Wow - I had no idea there was so much going on in there.

PS: You must have tons of experience with QM's, 'cause you always direct me to super helpful [and easy to understand] references in a snap. Thank you for sharing.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 02:04:11 PM »

"Never memorize something that you can look up."
— Albert Einstein
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 10:13:08 AM »

LOL! I agree Wink
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2009, 10:28:14 AM »

PS: I was researching the ARS shocks & springs. I found the shocks at several retailers online, but couldn't find the ARS springs (unless they're just calling them hypercoil, & not ARS). Is it best to use ARS springs with ARS shocks? Or does it not matter?
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2009, 12:14:18 PM »

We use the yellow springs from zero error.  Primarily because we bought about 40 springs for well under $150.  Half were brand new and the other half were hardly even used (none of the markings were worn off).
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2009, 02:25:21 PM »

Whatever brand of spring you decide to go with, try sticking to them to ensure the exact size when swapping at the track because spring size does matter and can throw off your numbers if they are shorter or taller than what you have.

We use ARS shocks and also ARS springs and the springs can be purchased from anyone that sells the shocks.
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