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Title: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Thomason on January 28, 2009, 11:15:34 PM
I have never posted to a forum before because I never felt the need to share my thoughts or get caught up in the bantering that normally deteriorates into name calling.  This will be long winded because I have all of these pent up thoughts that need to come out.  I am the president of the new Indy .25 club.  My resume’ includes two years as president of Mini Indy and four out of my five years in quarter midgets have been spent as an officer or Board member of that club.  I’ve had a lot of people question the way that I’ve done things in ear bending tirades, vicious e-mails, threats, etc. , but that all just kind of comes with the territory in this kid oriented sport.  I got over it.  The point of this post is not to initiate debate, finger pointing or name calling, but just to state how I got to this point and why. I don't intend to respond or to post again.
 
First, the things that are not my motivation in doing this:
    Ass kissing the USAC officials to further my son’s racing career.  My son is a fine driver, but he has one, maybe two years of .25 racing and then whatever he does in the way of racing won’t be in USAC events.  He won’t be emancipated to run midgets or sprints.  He’s a smart kid with a lot of interests.
   Personal revenge against a club that refused to accept the way I wanted to do things.  Over the last 5 years, the only person who has a claim to more time, sweat, effort, money and love invested in Mini Indy than me is my wife, Denise.  It was never done for recognition, but only to provide a great racing experience for the kids, many times to the detriment of mine.  Although things are certainly nasty and becoming personal towards us from Mini Indy, this isn’t a personal issue.  I firmly believe that USAC is a better way of doing things….read on.

   Quarter midget racing is a wonderful sport and, basically, racing is racing.  The QMA structure is all volunteer, which, in theory, is a wonderful way to do things.  But human nature, as it is, will always have 10% of the people doing 90% of the work.  On a regional or national level, I’m sure every one of those individuals is a fine person with the best of intentions, putting in countless hours “for the kids”.  Most people are smart enough not to get involved in the politics of the sport, but the novice families wonder why everyone is always mad.  I got involved before I knew any better.
   I attended four straight January Region 4 presidents meetings.  Every year we sorted through 30-40 RCP’s for approval.  Every year it seemed that we debated the same issues:  division weights, tires, seat belts, leaning out, X car eligible.  It was like the movie “Groundhog Day”.  It seemed that the only changes to ever come out were things introduced on the floor at the national meeting.  Look at this year’s RCP’s…déjà vu.   Region 4’s vote carried the same weight as one-club Region 7 or two-club regions 1 and 13.  It just never changed.  People rotated in and then out, leaving their mark and moving on.  How many times did I hear “I don’t care, one more year and I’m outta here”.  It’s the nature of the structure of the organization.  I know that it’s been here 50 years, but it’s frustrating to virtually everyone that’s experienced it.  How many have left with a great racing experience, but a bittersweet personal experience?
   I didn’t ask USAC to get into the quarter midget business, but I listened and saw a better way to do things.  Sorry, I’m just like that.  I see stability in the business end and consistency in the interpretations of rules and issues because there are paid, full time people that will be there today, tomorrow and 3 years from now.  There is flexibility to race the way you want at a local level.  Their stated purpose is to market and grow the sport.  More importantly, I see a new beginning with a group of people that want to listen to the membership and make the tough decisions to let the sport evolve.  I know that there is a definite anti-USAC sentiment, especially from some of the old racers that have raced in various forms under the USAC banner. Those impressions are hard to change, but the good-old-boy administration is gone and replaced with people that genuinely want to make this work.  Call them, they'll answer the phone and return calls.  There is no doubt that they will experience growing pains and that this won’t be all roses, but they will learn, adapt and make it better.  They have to, because they will be there to answer for it.  I’ve bought into it, I want to leave the sport better for the next generation of kids and their families, simple as that. 

Rick Thomason
Indy .25 Midget Racing Club


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 28, 2009, 11:26:17 PM
Well said!!!


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: race24 on January 28, 2009, 11:32:12 PM
Hey Rick

You will do a great job

Good Luck

Nick Poe


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: ssssmoke on January 28, 2009, 11:42:25 PM
sounds like they got the right man for the job in indy, cant wait to get there and race. good luck.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: clouse55 on January 28, 2009, 11:56:28 PM
Well done Rick, well done!!



Jeff Clouse


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: goffin20 on January 29, 2009, 12:07:47 AM
Very well said!!!


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 12:16:39 AM
Sorry Rick, but I don't believe it.

If you truely wanted to do this the right way you should have let the current leadership at Mini-Indy know it was coming rather than blind siding them.  What you have done to Steve Kuhn is inexcusable.

You should have recommended that current Mini-Indy officers refrain from involvement with USAC unless they resigned from their leadership roles as Mini-Indy is currently a QMA sanctioned track.  That way you wouldn't have had Mini-Indy officers and their son's cars in the USAC booth this past weekend rather than the Mini-Indy, QMA booth where they should have been.

Your wife Denise, who you mention above, should have resigned as the Secretary of Mini-Indy as her position gives her access to confidential clubs records.  This situation certainly will lead to ethics questions.

If you had done things the right way Rick, Mini-Indy would not be facing the uncomfortable club meeting they are going to have Thursday evening to vote on impeaching your wife and another board member.

So you can say what you want about why you have done this.  But the manner in which it was done would lead one to believe this is about revenge and vindictivness.

And this is coming from a guy that likes you, your wife and your son.  A guy that supported you during your years as president of Mini-Indy.  I can only imagine what the people that didn't like you are thinking.

Phil Heil
Proud Mini-Indy Alum


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 29, 2009, 12:19:39 AM
Phil Phil Phil I think with the statement that you just made that you should wake up and understand what's going!!! If you say that some of you people is backing USAC should get out I understand. But what I don't understand is the one and only TONY GEORGE from the INDIANAPOLIS 500 track help founded the mini-indy track and made it what it is today!!! Now Tony is backing USAC in a good way and standing by USAC!!! So all in all you should practice what you preach and understand what the mini-indy club is doing to Mr. George!!!

That's just my thoughts!!!

Also Phil you should know the whole story before you start making statements like this!!!

What you have done to Steve Kuhn is inexcusable.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 12:24:39 AM
Phil Phil Phil I think with the statement that you just made that you should wake up and understand what's going!!! If you say that some of you people is backing USAC should get out I understand. But what I don't understand is the one and only TONY GEORGE from the INDIANAPOLIS 500 track help founded the mini-indy track and made it what it is today!!! Now Tony is backing USAC in a good way and standing by USAC!!! So all in all you should practice what you preach and understand what the mini-indy club is doing to Mr. George!!!

That's just my thoughts!!!

You already said that in another thread.

I am preaching responsibility, honesty and ethics.  Some folks involved in this mess should give 'em a try.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 29, 2009, 12:29:13 AM
And like I said you should know the whole story before you start barking up the wrong tree!!!


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 12:31:10 AM

Also Phil you should know the whole story before you start making statements like this!!!

What you have done to Steve Kuhn is inexcusable.

I do, so I can.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 29, 2009, 12:32:27 AM
OK!!!   ::)


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 12:33:10 AM
And like I said you should know the whole story before you start barking up the wrong tree!!!

You mean the whole story that Mini-Indy voted to remain QMA and that wasn't good enough for some folks so they screwed over club leadership to further their own agendas.

Yep, sounds like the whole story to me.  ;)


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 29, 2009, 12:34:20 AM
OK!!! ::)


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 12:37:33 AM
OK!!!   ::)

Look Melmo (whoever you are, I sign my posts)

I have no problem with USAC.  If the membership of Mini-Indy had voted to go USAC I would have supported it.  

BUT, the membership of Mini-Indy voted to stay with QMA.  And, since they did, the leadership of Mini-Indy should have supported that decision or resigned.

I would have no problems with a Mini-Indy member associating with USAC, but not when you are an elected official of the Mini-Indy Club.

I would have had no problem with Rick signing on to be President of the new .25 Indy Club, if it had been handled correctly up front.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

Phil Heil
Proud Mini-indy Alum


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 29, 2009, 12:42:20 AM
Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

I understand very well!!! As far as the name goes that is my name and everyone knows me very well weather good or bad!!!


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: djcasey2009 on January 29, 2009, 12:53:09 AM
why cant we just let our kids race.....???


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 01:09:08 AM
why cant we just let our kids race.....???

Because, like most other youth sports, parents and their egos have to get involved.

There are many things I will miss about QM racing.  This kind of crap I will not miss.  One nice thing about the next level (AMSA Mini-Sprints for us) is you go and race and you abide by the rules of  the sanctioning body and the track or you go home.

There are no Regional and National Boards, no judges, no parental involvement other than working with your kid and his car.

I will miss our friends at the track and watching my kid race, but I won't miss the politics, pettiness and personal self-interests that is quarter midget racing.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: USACRULES on January 29, 2009, 04:27:58 AM
Quote
I will miss our friends at the track and watching my kid race, but I won't miss the politics, pettiness and personal self-interests that is quarter midget racing.

You got all of that while racing QMA. Maybe USAC will be different.
Like Obama say's "We need Change"
Like I say "if you do as you always did you will get what you always got!" :)

Looking foward to be racing with the NEW MINI INDY CLUB , thanks Rick for stepping up and being president


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: 2fast4u on January 29, 2009, 08:11:49 AM
Very well said Rick, Good Luck!!


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: LLR on January 29, 2009, 08:24:03 AM
Rick, I understand were your coming from.As pres. of buckeye last year I totally understand.That was well said.Looking forward to see the club grow.Good luck.
   Phil, I think this is a case of damn if you do damned if you don't.If you don't like what he has done it's simple don't race at that club.Easy.

Hey Rick have they started that rumor with you yet?I was told that my driver was going to get a jr focus if I got them in at buckeye.But then again you don't have that dumb a.. dave young around you.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: gass on January 29, 2009, 10:08:47 AM
Phil Phil Phil I think with the statement that you just made that you should wake up and understand what's going!!! If you say that some of you people is backing USAC should get out I understand. But what I don't understand is the one and only TONY GEORGE from the INDIANAPOLIS 500 track help founded the mini-indy track and made it what it is today!!! Now Tony is backing USAC in a good way and standing by USAC!!! So all in all you should practice what you preach and understand what the mini-indy club is doing to Mr. George!!!

That's just my thoughts!!!

Also Phil you should know the whole story before you start making statements like this!!!

What you have done to Steve Kuhn is inexcusable.

Melmo,
 

How do you know what Tony thinks and doesn't think?  I happen to know Tony doesn't like to get involved in controversies that don't involve him.   I have yet to hear Tony say he is backing either as he is concerned about IRL issues and rightfully so.  I think you are assuming something that may not be true.   I am not saying he backs one club or the other what I am saying is he usually stays neutral on this type of thing.

Nancy Gass



Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 29, 2009, 10:15:37 AM
Maybe or Maybe not Nancy!!! But I guess you know it all so in the minds of all of us we will start thinking something else!!! Like you more less said you know it all!!!


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: gass on January 29, 2009, 10:23:38 AM
Maybe or Maybe not Nancy!!! But I guess you know it all so in the minds of all of us we will start thinking something else!!! Like you more less said you know it all!!!

I am not saying I know it all I am just saying that Tony typically does not get involved in this it doesn't involve the IRL. 

Just for the record my family plans on joining both series.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 29, 2009, 10:26:53 AM
OK    ::)


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: rjmoul on January 29, 2009, 10:37:19 AM
Without being drawn into a whizzing match,  here is all I am going to say.

I no longer look at it as USAC vs QMA.   I have not made it a secret that I did like what USAC was saying about their intentions for .25.

But for me it now looks like a USAC vs. Mini Indy.  They say they wish  Mini Indy no harm with their words,  but their actions seem to speak otherwise.  



  


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 29, 2009, 10:47:43 AM
Sorry Rick, but I don't believe it.

If you truely wanted to do this the right way you should have let the current leadership at Mini-Indy know it was coming rather than blind siding them.  What you have done to Steve Kuhn is inexcusable.

You should have recommended that current Mini-Indy officers refrain from involvement with USAC unless they resigned from their leadership roles as Mini-Indy is currently a QMA sanctioned track.  That way you wouldn't have had Mini-Indy officers and their son's cars in the USAC booth this past weekend rather than the Mini-Indy, QMA booth where they should have been.

Your wife Denise, who you mention above, should have resigned as the Secretary of Mini-Indy as her position gives her access to confidential clubs records.  This situation certainly will lead to ethics questions.

If you had done things the right way Rick, Mini-Indy would not be facing the uncomfortable club meeting they are going to have Thursday evening to vote on impeaching your wife and another board member.

So you can say what you want about why you have done this.  But the manner in which it was done would lead one to believe this is about revenge and vindictivness.

And this is coming from a guy that likes you, your wife and your son.  A guy that supported you during your years as president of Mini-Indy.  I can only imagine what the people that didn't like you are thinking.

Phil Heil
Proud Mini-Indy Alum

Rjmoul,

 With posting like this its seems to be the other way around on what you just stated!!! It seems like some of the Mini-Indy Proud Alum is attacking USAC and some of the supporters but the bad part is to me when a guy is looking out for what he thinks best for the kids why put him down?!!!


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 11:03:04 AM
Exactly Bob, this is about some people not getting their way.....and not being happy about it.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 11:03:51 AM
OK    ::)

Don't argue with Melvin....it's a waste of time and energy.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Melmo on January 29, 2009, 11:05:20 AM
OK    ::)

Don't argue with Melvin....it's a waste of time and energy.

If you say so!!!  ;D


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Swartz on January 29, 2009, 11:48:06 AM
Intresting. So someone who has a USAC membership should not hold a QMA office. Does that include Focus and Kenyon? How about other kids racing sanctioning bodies?


Sorry Rick, but I don't believe it.

If you truely wanted to do this the right way you should have let the current leadership at Mini-Indy know it was coming rather than blind siding them.  What you have done to Steve Kuhn is inexcusable.

You should have recommended that current Mini-Indy officers refrain from involvement with USAC unless they resigned from their leadership roles as Mini-Indy is currently a QMA sanctioned track.  That way you wouldn't have had Mini-Indy officers and their son's cars in the USAC booth this past weekend rather than the Mini-Indy, QMA booth where they should have been.

Your wife Denise, who you mention above, should have resigned as the Secretary of Mini-Indy as her position gives her access to confidential clubs records.  This situation certainly will lead to ethics questions.

If you had done things the right way Rick, Mini-Indy would not be facing the uncomfortable club meeting they are going to have Thursday evening to vote on impeaching your wife and another board member.

So you can say what you want about why you have done this.  But the manner in which it was done would lead one to believe this is about revenge and vindictivness.

And this is coming from a guy that likes you, your wife and your son.  A guy that supported you during your years as president of Mini-Indy.  I can only imagine what the people that didn't like you are thinking.

Phil Heil
Proud Mini-Indy Alum


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 12:17:07 PM
Apples and oranges......Focus and Kenyon are not in competitive with QMA.

The Mini-Indy membership voted to remain QMA.  The officers of the club should have respected that decision.  Does that mean they can't race USAC events?  No, of course not.

Now does it mean they should not be in USAC boths displaying their cars at an event where Mini-Indy has a QMA booth?  Yes.

Does it mean they should not stay on as Secretary while their husband is working with USAC to create a club to compete against Mini-Indy for membership?  Yes.

The Mini-Indy officers were elected to support the Mini-indy Club and its members.  Those members voted to remain QMA for now.  If some officers cannot respect that decision they should resign.  It's that simple.

How long would you keep your job if your boss found out you were working with the competition?

If some of you people can't understand that I can't help you.  It's basic common sense.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Swartz on January 29, 2009, 01:40:34 PM
It really is just a shame. We ran the ISCS series last summer and some of the greatest people we have met doing this were at Kokomo and Indy. I'm starting to wonder if this is like Wrastlin'.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: ANB1 on January 29, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
Phil, where I disagree is why do people think these two have to be in competition with one another...the two clubs that is...

If anything it just gives the kids around here another place to race QM's.

And there were people on both sides of the debate who were wrong...that club meeting where some members had QMA reps there without the board or many on the board knowing that they were going to be there was a joke.

Frankly, that was a members meeting....I don't know why any non-members should have been there, QMA or USAC.

I just hate that so many want to hide behind "it's for the kids" ---I'm not speaking to you here by the way...when for many...it is clearly about everything except the kids.

I do not know what/where or how many QM events we are running this year...we are going to be doing a lot of karting but plan on running some QM events...but this mess(exactly what it is )has made me feel even better about doing more karting.  However, I know my son is going to miss the QM experience and being with his friends when not racing.....that experience for him is in my mind the best thing about QM racing...the friendships the things they learn off the track.....they don't bring those grudges onto the track like adults...they just want to race, try for wins, and have fun. 

Aaron-

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Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: Magic Man on January 29, 2009, 02:39:22 PM
Spot On Aaron!  Thats what I am talking about.  Everyone on here echoes the sentiment that this is for the kids.  The kids will have fun if it is USAC or QMA and so will I.  I am a loyal and proud Mini Indy member. However, do not hold a preference to racing organizations.  I say all Indy area handlers have a meeting at the Classy Chassis and hash this all out, cooperate on schedule so we all can race more and not conflict points race dates. 

Lets start a QM series that pays some cash.  These trophies just arent paying the bills. 



Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: ssssmoke on January 29, 2009, 03:22:35 PM
rock on magic man!!


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: gass on January 29, 2009, 03:41:38 PM

I would like to see a few inter-series races fun races like the Sox/Cubs crosstown classics. Maybe something similiar to the states but it doesn't matter what series your a member of as long as your a member of either QMA or USAC.

Both sides would need to pitch in at concessions etc...

I wonder if the kids were asked without parental input what they would say?


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: clouse55 on January 29, 2009, 04:41:26 PM
I believe Aaron hit the nail on the head! When people decide to turn racing competition into sanctioning competition, chassis competition, male/female competition, etc. it gets ugly like we all have seen recently. THIS IS ABOUT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES!!!! ITS A FREE COUNTRY!! Whats wrong with anyone looking for something different or maybe better. Seems like we never learn from history, the attitude taken throughout this whole deal is the same as what started school bussing, segregation, etc. Everyone needs to stop and think a little bit here.
 


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: htjtct on January 29, 2009, 05:40:07 PM
USAC and QMA should not compete against each other.   I feel it would have been great for USAC to say in the beginning...hey we want to help quarter midgets.  We are going to schedule some races at different places around town until we build our own track.  Come one and all and be apart.  Instead they came in like a takeover trying to takeover tracks and memberships. This caused people upset, disagreements, and a lot of heartache splitting clubs, friendships, and people having to choose a side.  I am so tired of everybody knowing everything and their oppinion is always right.  Come on people.  I am also tired of everybody being a victim.  Well they did this and they did that.  Get over it.  Nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistakes.  I love our club Mini Indy and I support it 100% whether it would have went USAC or QMA.  The people voted and that is what it is.  I do have a problem when a board member voted in by the membership to do a job was asked to help and couldn't, and ends up being there anyway helping another track and club.  I don't mind him helping them but not as a board member at the same event when he was asked to help his club and do a job he was voted in to do.  As for the person that started this thread......you make your words sound so right and so true and everyone on here don't know the lieing deceit you have done to our club.  Most of them will never know.  I don't need to make those things known because it is nobody's business.  You are the one that has to sleep at night.  If you feel so strongly about how things are ran for QMA I will be interested to see if you run it this year and am confused why your wife still wants control over the tower.

I still wish all clubs going QMA or USAC the best.  I pray that you have loyal, upright, people as officers and board members that support your club and do the best for it no  matter what.  That is what every club deserves.

Heather Thomas


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: ssssmoke on January 29, 2009, 07:45:55 PM
heather, i beleive you put alot of heart and soul in this sport and i respect that, but dont you think qma is kinda heading in the wrong direction.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: PhilHeil on January 29, 2009, 08:24:20 PM
Hey, I think the two organizations working together would be a great idea.  It still may happen.....who knows.

Although, unfortunately, there may be a lot of blood spilled before that happens.


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: war09 on January 30, 2009, 02:02:04 AM
USAC and QMA should not compete against each other.   I feel it would have been great for USAC to say in the beginning...hey we want to help quarter midgets.  We are going to schedule some races at different places around town until we build our own track.  Come one and all and be apart.  Instead they came in like a takeover trying to takeover tracks and memberships. This caused people upset, disagreements, and a lot of heartache splitting clubs, friendships, and people having to choose a side.  I am so tired of everybody knowing everything and their oppinion is always right.  Come on people.  I am also tired of everybody being a victim.  Well they did this and they did that.  Get over it.  Nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistakes.  I love our club Mini Indy and I support it 100% whether it would have went USAC or QMA.  The people voted and that is what it is.  I do have a problem when a board member voted in by the membership to do a job was asked to help and couldn't, and ends up being there anyway helping another track and club.  I don't mind him helping them but not as a board member at the same event when he was asked to help his club and do a job he was voted in to do.  As for the person that started this thread......you make your words sound so right and so true and everyone on here don't know the lieing deceit you have done to our club.  Most of them will never know.  I don't need to make those things known because it is nobody's business.  You are the one that has to sleep at night.  If you feel so strongly about how things are ran for QMA I will be interested to see if you run it this year and am confused why your wife still wants control over the tower.

I still wish all clubs going QMA or USAC the best.  I pray that you have loyal, upright, people as officers and board members that support your club and do the best for it no  matter what.  That is what every club deserves.

Heather Thomas
Heather, you are so right, this USAC or QMA or both would have went over alot better if some people didn't do the LIEING and DECEIT was to get it in.Some people didn't want both they just wanted USAC in,if they would have let people make up there own minds things would have been better.Now the people are split and it's going to be a blood bath,and they only ones that are getting hurt are the KIDS


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: 2fast4u on January 30, 2009, 08:57:46 AM
Can't you get the hint, it was peaceful while you were gone war09/deco45!!


Title: Re: USAC - why? my statement
Post by: brad_tribble on January 30, 2009, 09:23:27 AM
I don't think that the kids are going to be hurt at all.  As far as they are concerned they are going to get strapped into the race car, stand on the gas, and turn left. They don't care what series they are racing under.  In fact when my son heard that USAC was going to be running .25 he got EXCITED that he would be running with, as he called it, PROFESSIONALS.  He asked how much $$$ he would get for winning.  I had to explain to him that just because USAC was a professional organization it did not mean that he would get paid.

As for lies and deciet...what about the lies told by QMA at the beginning of this "war"?  That letter that was "mistakenly" released was just full of them and not until the lawyer said that you can't say some of the things in it did QMA say that it was only a draft that was sent out by mistake...