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Title: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 04, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
seems like the buckeye club has got a good test going for tire treatment. does anyone know if its working? if so what is the punishment?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: Melmo on January 04, 2009, 03:23:53 PM
I don't know about that!!! But man the carts with there tire treatment and the Rumble or whatever they did this year sure left a hell of a mess on our car!!! I'm still trying to get all the dope off and went to 2 cans of WD/40 and haven't got nowhere yet. Anyone have any suggestions please help!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: clouse55 on January 04, 2009, 06:37:57 PM
Melmo, find someone that deals in Schaffer oils, some truck stops do. Buy their product called Citrol. My local township uses this to clean off asphalt. Used it on my 2 messes and works pretty good, better than WD_40. You might still want to soak the shock bodies in WD first than the Citrol to make sure you get that crap out of the threads.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on January 04, 2009, 07:09:34 PM
jeff, Don't make to many wise choices when going to races.Was nice sitting up in the stands with the wife and watching.Until she saw the first heat of 600 and the car flipped that's a good way to show her what were doing.Cars in Ind. today getting excited.But still like laughing at you guys cleaning that stuff off.See you in the chicken coop on the 17th.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: clouse55 on January 04, 2009, 10:21:20 PM
Oh just wait till your hotlapping and then get a 3 inch goose drowner, the truck and trailer gets stuck, and the only guy left at the track is some applejack in a '78 blazer with 40'' monster mudders on it. It will take a shovel just to clean your windshield!!!!  LMAO!!!


See you the 17th!!! 


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on January 04, 2009, 11:53:37 PM
And you be the first one there laughin your butt off.I forgot all about those good times until driving to fort wayne and noticed that gas station on right side.Was telling the wife about that it involved "finding a key "to a pc of equipment and trying to push casebolts truck out of the mud after A bad night at limaland.good times good times.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: goffin20 on January 05, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
Melmo, find someone that deals in Schaffer oils, some truck stops do. Buy their product called Citrol. My local township uses this to clean off asphalt. Used it on my 2 messes and works pretty good, better than WD_40. You might still want to soak the shock bodies in WD first than the Citrol to make sure you get that crap out of the threads.

Wonder if it will work on their suites because it looks like it picked up 20 years of use with all the black crap slung all over it.  Dryer = BOOM  lol

3 years of Rumbles and never had the cars a mess or looking like this year, something was much different.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on January 05, 2009, 10:13:10 AM
scott that cleaners over by larry does a good job and it's only 10-20$


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: goffin20 on January 05, 2009, 10:15:15 AM
Think it will get that nasty tire treatment/rubber/tar off?  Whats the name of the place, is it the one right in that plaza where Beechwold Automotive/QMstuff.com is?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: d4hall on January 05, 2009, 11:13:42 AM
Getreu Cleaners across from the plaza at the light.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: goffin20 on January 05, 2009, 11:25:22 AM
Thanks Dale, Ill have to give them a try...


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 05, 2009, 11:53:01 AM
ok now that we know about rumble does anyone know if bqmra is handing out any punishment? or was everyone clean


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: Melmo on January 05, 2009, 01:30:58 PM
Sorry Smoke!!! We've raced at Columbus several times and loved it. But I do know that the people in charge will take care of it. If anyone gets found doing it and they prove it they won't be back!!! Also it don't matter who you are or if you got a lot of money!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: pointtwofive on January 05, 2009, 05:19:27 PM
Test


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on January 05, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
Smoke,there were people that was guilty but no name have been released. All i know that we can run upfront legal. I really would like to know the guilty ones so that they would be removed and let us legal teams have fun without them. Smoke could you look your son/daughter in the eye and tell them you have been cheating. ???


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 06, 2009, 04:08:39 PM
i just wanted to suggest one thing post thier picture on the wall at next sign in like a coward wall of fame. then i want to approach them and let them know they got thier tail kicked by a legal rocketship!!!!! the reason im so mad about it is bikeing is getting worse the more races we run there, and when a kid gets hurt because of it it just makes matters that worse.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 06, 2009, 04:17:48 PM
yes .25, they are swabbing tires and taking them to a lab for analysis, they are supposed to be able to tell you everything on your tires from this test. my honest opinion is that it is a hoax because i have heard of no punishment as of yet, so whats the use if you dont do anything? no offense to the buckeye club i think they are a wonderful group of people but I WANT TO SEE RESULTS BEFORE I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE TIRE TESTING.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: goffin20 on January 06, 2009, 05:11:21 PM
Just remember, MUCH of the biking that you see indoors can be stopped by the handler with chassis adjustments.  However, many choose to run their cars tight.

At Ft. Wayne there were some cars biking on the first few laps and others that never biked, its all in the setup.  And Ft. Wayne had much more tire prep on it and was much tackier than the indoor track ever will.

Lower cross
Raise Panard bars
Move RR tire out
Stiffen Springs
Increase air

All of which are ways to free up the car as well as many others I’m sure.


As for cheaters, I think they should have to be the one to DQ their kid and explain to them why they had to cheat to win.  The handler should be punished, not the child.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 06, 2009, 06:08:28 PM
i agree 100%, but there are alot of young drivers with new handlers as well. which there are some that move up way to early. i agree the handlers should have to explain to there kids why they were dsq. , i was just thinking about the ole country store up the road that posted the people who wrote bad checks name right by the registure how embarrased they must be.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on January 06, 2009, 06:31:07 PM
ssssmoke pay cash for that next 40 once you want.:)don't pay by check


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 06, 2009, 06:35:05 PM
yeah but that rubber check was not treated!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: pointtwofive on January 07, 2009, 08:53:16 AM
In the Senior Honda and Light 160 classes, what brand of (untreated) tires are they running at the Columbus Indoors?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on January 07, 2009, 09:53:15 AM
I beleive it's d30 hoosier,and yfa's.SSSmoke is that right?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: goffin20 on January 07, 2009, 11:53:54 AM
My son drove the last race for a new upcoming handler and A40’s worked fine.

Historically, we have always run DBWs the first race and then DCSs each race after.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 07, 2009, 01:32:55 PM
in sr honda the a main winner was on hoosier a30, the 2nd place car was on d30 hoosiers, but was having to loosen car up drastically. i would recommend a30 or firestone ykd (yfa). lt 160 im going to run firestone ygf (ykf) on a tight car.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: pointtwofive on January 07, 2009, 04:01:07 PM
Thanks for the tire info. Is anyone selling Hoosiers at the indoors? If so, do you know their prices?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 07, 2009, 04:07:02 PM
.25 the hoosiers are 100.00 for right sides. your best bet would be contact larry ebert asap to put your name in for a set. they are supplied by jeff nuckles if im not mistaken. do you know larry?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: sprintcar39 on January 07, 2009, 04:20:02 PM
WOW
....going to have to grind those compound numbers off the tires from now on.   :o


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: pointtwofive on January 07, 2009, 05:16:44 PM
Careful, the resin in the grinding wheel might contaminate your tires!!!  :)


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on January 07, 2009, 06:48:42 PM
Hey sprintcar39 i was told by a old school handler that if you want to learn and beat your competition that you watch what they do. I,m keeping a eye on you!!! ;D


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 07, 2009, 07:07:55 PM
yes 2 fast thats right. tell your kid to become friends with the fast kids and have your kid take a notepad with him/her and get valuable info like tires,gears, etc!!!!!! LOL   HEY HOW YOU GUYS PUTTING THEM LITTLE FACES ON HERE?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on January 07, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
at the top of the page next to the page #  hit reply and it will take to full page reply.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 07, 2009, 09:21:22 PM
sweet!!!!!!! :o :o :o


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: badassfast on January 08, 2009, 02:04:04 AM
no need to grind, looked to me like the car with the d30 was coming anyhow!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: sprintcar39 on January 08, 2009, 08:08:47 AM
Yes...you are correct he was coming. I think the a30 was the right tire but the handler made a bad choice with gearing.   >:(


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 08, 2009, 10:56:15 AM
is it me or does it seem like the 17th is never going to get here


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: Melmo on January 08, 2009, 03:45:49 PM
Question!!! So has any of you used the new A35 yet? If how do they work?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 10, 2009, 11:01:46 AM
havnt seen em yet  dont know of anyone either. you?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: smoke14 on January 11, 2009, 05:00:30 PM
Smoke, your right. I do not think the 17th is ever going to come. I wish we had more races in doors.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on January 11, 2009, 11:21:58 PM
ssssmoke and smoke14, you just wait I'll ask you that same ? at about midnight.see you there.ssssmoke sure you have your cars done mine is still at the fab shop getting fit for my kid that is growing 1'' every day.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 12, 2009, 04:44:05 PM
i would recommend a cinder block strapped to top of head!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on January 12, 2009, 04:58:17 PM
Hey smoke14 is a Rookie, he's finished by 5:30. We will ask him at the end of the year after we run 2 to 3 times a weekend about more races. I have said the same thing myself. 


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on January 12, 2009, 11:45:40 PM
ssssmoke did you see how many people looked at your post? 2fast4u your right I'll laugh at him draging butt after two-three day weekends in july.Make sure he runs a deco at somepoint.that will be funny.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 13, 2009, 08:25:32 AM
not enough, just tryin to give common sense to those without. plus i was bored out my arse!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on January 13, 2009, 08:41:24 AM
ssssmoke, don't they have to born with that, just a thought? :P


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 13, 2009, 12:15:09 PM
you would think so, but!!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on January 26, 2009, 11:38:51 AM
stii havnt heard anything on the tire test at indoors?  hoax?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on February 02, 2009, 06:00:51 PM
I am very uneasy about treated tires i seen at indoors this weekend. Several car had these tires on them, maybe that would explain why we had so many car on two wheels and a couple upside down.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: Phil on February 02, 2009, 06:46:11 PM
I was most uneasy with the car in the Sr Stock heat race that was running HOT fuel. I could smell it soon as I walked out of the restroom. I hope Buckeye takes a hard stance on that.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: MOC96 on February 02, 2009, 06:58:45 PM
2fast4u, i agree 100%. my driver has never biked at any track...ever. he was lifting 6 inches easily. that was the first time i saw my kid scared in a QM car. we are indoor veterans, i went to extreme measures to loosen the car. even with a bad tire choice we shouldn't be that far off. on a normal day, he would have spun in circles on the first turn. in the end, he biked and we parked it with 5 laps to go in the A main. i will not destroy my car or break my kids neck to run with guys who need to cheat to keep up.

    The shame is that the Buckeye club busts their butt to put on a great winter deal. Dale, Liz and the Buckeye crew put in ridiculous hours in on this series. but they were busy dealing with spoiled brat kids vandalizing the property, dads doping their fuel (the smell was obvious) and the usual challenges of running such a big event. then we have guys with slop on their tires.

           Go ahead and teach your kid that cheating is better than hard, honest work. My Boy will beat you every time.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on February 02, 2009, 09:43:38 PM
try flagging that race.I was on the radio wanting it done when they came off the track.That fuel deal and tires are bs.Why people have to do that to win  a trophy.I'm just wondering if people smelled it two weeks ago or if it was this week only.I hope they get caught and kick there a.. out for a while.That's why I like  "A" bore and stroke and letter eat.Even though my driver was not happy with me this weekend.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 02, 2009, 10:01:08 PM
hate to say it but i think they want entry fees more than safety or there would be some suspensions handed out by now. or until its thier kid sitting there in a wrecked car with someone stableizing thier head


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: pokesalad on February 03, 2009, 02:28:28 PM
I would not just blame the handlers, The track officials were spraying stuff on the track. This was the first time I have been up there in 2 years. We came up there with no altered tires, thinking this was going to be checked. Well I guess I will be bringing the jug with me at the finals LOL  This made Reg 3  look like angels

Pokesalad


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 03, 2009, 04:30:42 PM
first of all they only check the impounded cars, second when they find it on thier tires they dont do anything. third when you loosen the cars to the max and still bike its a problem. gotta keep them car counts up!!!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: MOC96 on February 03, 2009, 08:19:24 PM
the track officials have always sprayed the track down. this is nothing new. it didn't cause the drastic track change. i don't recall the product they use. maybe LLR or Dale Hall answer that.
 
and yes i would blame some of the handlers. i suppose the Buckeye club caused the exhaust smell in the stocker race also? maybe an aerosol? that club has plenty of money, they don't need to resort to crap to make more. we need more self regulation among handlers, a little peer pressure. and less whining about club conspiracies. i am not from that club, but i know those people. they don't want to put your kid on a backboard to make a buck.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 03, 2009, 08:54:21 PM
i just think it was preached at the handlers meeting about how the swabbing worked. does it work?if so what is the punishment to those who got busted? i dont care who it is but i would like to know what happened?  i think i can answer that.... nothing, im not blaming any bqmra members i have the upmost respect for most of them, there is alot of classy families there i look up to and try to follow there example.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: MOC96 on February 03, 2009, 09:19:50 PM
I'm with you there sssmoke. it would be nice to hear of a punishment. just to nail 'em to the wall as an example. there will always be cheating in racing. always has been. but i saw some really innovative legal stuff there this weekend also. some guys either have a lot of guts or way too much time on their hands.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on February 03, 2009, 09:28:03 PM
moc96 I agree with you this has to stop but like sssmoke also said is don't say something and not do anything about it .The stuff that is sprayed is pure brake fluid from napa they have doing that for years.It's so we can have a racetrack to race on.I'm not 100% in agreement with as much that's put on but on the other hand if you don't keep doing it the biking will get worse.I was the pres. last year and we had the people soaking I'm sure and it's hard to stop but I also beleive lastyear we slowed it down with bringing that tire guy(money well spent)and also DQing that handler from NC lastyear. I got alot of thankyou from people down there.I wish I had an answer for the problem.As far as the stock race I have a couple of suggestion I.m goingto discuss with the tech and pres. about.That along with the tire prep is bs and needs to stop.Iflagged that stock race and had tears in my eyes.Will see what we can do thanks for coming up.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: Phil on February 03, 2009, 10:08:12 PM
I'm with you there sssmoke. it would be nice to hear of a punishment. just to nail 'em to the wall as an example. there will always be cheating in racing. always has been. but i saw some really innovative legal stuff there this weekend also. some guys either have a lot of guts or way too much time on their hands.

Your right, I saw some cool stuff myself. 


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 03, 2009, 10:34:52 PM
dq the cheaters and let the REAL talent shine and enjoy what we came here to do!! bqmra puts on one hell of a show in the winter!!!!! good job just stand with a fist.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on February 03, 2009, 10:55:07 PM
Did anybody see any tire checking going on this weekend? Looking back at the last two weekends that we raced, there were a couple of cars this weekend that weren't there the week before in the Sr. Stock. ???


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 04, 2009, 09:24:44 AM
i didnt see the sniffer one time, which im not so sure it works indoor anyhow, i dont know if they swabbed or not.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: Mrneg on February 04, 2009, 11:38:31 AM
In tech after the race I mentioned to the tech guy that I thought someone was probably treating tires because your hands would turn black after touching tires when they come off the track. Don't know any specifics but he said that they had caught a couple with treated tires this weekend.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 04, 2009, 03:32:33 PM
if thats the case,im ready to see what punishment is handed out. i say see you next year!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on February 05, 2009, 04:37:11 PM
Maybe Mr. Bear was there last night to make-up to Buckeye because of the fuel controversy in Sr. Stock since he had a car in that class and i also believe he's had a problem before with fuel. :'(


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: goffin20 on February 05, 2009, 05:09:14 PM
Is the competition that stiff or the reward that great that one would need to cheat to win?  I just don’t see how one can accept victory knowing that they could not do it without cheating?

What would the kids think of their parents should they find out, especially if it were by them being DQ’d?

I always preach “Do it honest and do it clean”.  I would much rather settle for 2nd or 3rd being honest than having to cheat to get 1st. 

Just think about what thats teaching your kids.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: grandma13 on February 05, 2009, 06:23:48 PM
Scott,  You just can't preach morals to a snake.  The name of the game is get your prey any way you can.  In this society it is unfortunate but there are many individuals who want to win no matter what.  I guess we just teach our young people that this is life, stand up for what you believe in and go on from there.  Then we do not have to worry about our young people being the puppets of some puppeteer' later in their lives.

I agree sooner or later things will work out.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: MOC96 on February 05, 2009, 06:44:11 PM
Scott, you hit it right there, "What would the kids think of their parents should they find out". I'm guessing that a lot of kids know about the cheating their Dads do.
    
In QM racing, we have a unique opportunity to teach our kids life lessons rather than leaving it to other coaches, teachers etc..i think that is why we see more humility in the pro race series. football, basketball. baseball..guys getting arrested, gambling, bragging, cockiness, wrecking their lives because they had no real mentor. you just don't see that in racing. Dale jr. would get knocked on his butt by his Dad if he tried that stuff.

I just think that when we push our kids onto the track, they are getting alot more than a trophy.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 05, 2009, 07:08:24 PM
we have been in every a main at the indoors with a legal race car. i think they are afraid of getting beat by a poor hillbilly. some kids can drive, some hasnt had that experience yet. so think about who you are cheating!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on February 05, 2009, 08:08:27 PM
Hey guys, parents don't understand that kids pay very close attention to what we do and say, so we are their role models so that why we have to blame the parents when kids do wrong. That the problem with this country today, very lenient or no punishment today for wrongdoing. This is the age where parents instill right for wrong i thought!!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 07, 2009, 04:22:57 PM
well tire doping will be down since the mini boys are boycotting the last indoor races!! (not intended to all)


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: grandma13 on February 07, 2009, 04:34:17 PM
Their loss your gain!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on February 07, 2009, 04:39:14 PM
They have kool-aid drinkers in that club too? :'(


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 08, 2009, 09:15:33 AM
kool aid or goat p


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on February 08, 2009, 10:17:48 AM
Is anybody going to the hockey game today?Saw that USAc going to have a display and also know buckey is also.Thinking about going.
     Saw alot of that goat p at the springfield swap meeting.Just what I wanted to smell roasted peanuts and tire treatments.Now wonder I got a headache.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on February 08, 2009, 10:53:26 AM
Yep, you can't beat .25 hotdogs :P


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on February 08, 2009, 08:03:13 PM
Boy I hope the .25 hotdogs wasn't usac ideal.That would mean there going to charge alot for us to join.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: 2fast4u on February 08, 2009, 08:42:22 PM
Hey LLR did you go up and enjoy those great .25 hotdogs? The kids had a great time today and even came out with a win. Go Bucks.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on February 08, 2009, 11:01:57 PM
No was unable to.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 11, 2009, 09:51:16 PM
go carts run last weekend?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 17, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
LLR,

[I was the pres. last year and we had the people soaking I'm sure and it's hard to stop but I also beleive lastyear we slowed it down with bringing that tire guy(money well spent)and also DQing that handler from NC lastyear. ]

Did you really slow it down, the person you gave the win to after the DQ last year just got busted for using prep at the Fall Nationals!
.....................But I'm sure he just started that practice!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on February 18, 2009, 09:03:58 AM
grteracer, You have a point.When we went to the reg3 race I ? him.I told my driver in the line-up your not going to win this race.She said why you say that.I told her that I see 4 cars with tire dope on them.I don't know if you watched the hvy honda A main.She was the one in the 3 car.She had a 1/2 track lead on the field and was kickin a..   until a caution came out with 4 to go and it looked like she was racing on ice and 6 cars went by her like she was a novice.The funny thing is she finished 5th so that tells me I guessed right.Wish we could have went to the fall natl. I'm not perfect but I tryed to slow it down.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 18, 2009, 10:22:47 AM
So you are saying that you had a 1/2 a lap lead on the field against cars that had prep in them?
You was that fast without prep and they was that slow with prep??
Something dont seem right!

Just my observation


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 18, 2009, 06:17:35 PM
tire prep gets the tires to grip and fire fast, which is what happened on that restart. LLR's car was good on a long run after the tires came in but was unable to hang on the restart.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 18, 2009, 07:20:56 PM
So if the tire prep gets the tires to grip and fire fast, that would indicate that the ones with prep would be a 1/2 a track lead on the field! Right?
Then on the restart the sticky tire would pick up all the dirt from going high around a spun car and thus would be loose on a restart.!

Thanks for clearing this up for me!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: goffin20 on February 18, 2009, 07:37:47 PM
I think it would depend on everyone’s starting position and how the first couple laps come out.  Wasn’t there but prepped tires could have been in the rear and held up in traffic for a bit and LLR only needs a couple laps to get rolling and away she goes...


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: grandma13 on February 18, 2009, 07:55:51 PM
How in the world Scott, as busy as I have seen you and your wife flying back and forth with the cars, have you had time to watch her in "couple of laps and away she goes........."


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: goffin20 on February 18, 2009, 08:08:58 PM
LOL,  we do try and make time to watch other races, although not as often as we would like.

Plus, you have to remember we had Adam running with us the last year or two and they were sometimes in the same races.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 18, 2009, 09:01:01 PM
qrterracer the race went i believe 35 or 36 green laps then a car spun ( a heavy car spinning after that many laps???? lets just say a favor.) giving a legal car plenty of time to take the lead. do i need to keep going or are you picking this up? :-[


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 18, 2009, 09:08:09 PM
I know what happened .. When you get out of the groove down there it is very DIRTY. Hot sticky tires pick up dirt and is very loose on restarts.
That is what I saw!
Did not see anyone spin for someone else,if that is what you are acussing!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 18, 2009, 09:17:28 PM
what caused that car to spin?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 18, 2009, 09:41:14 PM
Dont know why it spun?
Isnt this tread about indoors?

How do they check for tire prep when they spray brake fluid on the track for 4 months?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 18, 2009, 10:01:57 PM
the tires get swabbed with a piece of cloth, put in a bag and labeled tire brand, compound, etc. sent to a lab where they can diagnose how much of everything is on tire. leaving out any questions if it was picked up on track or placed on tire.


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 18, 2009, 10:37:06 PM
That really sounds like a real good test??
There is know way tou can tell if it picked up off the track(as you know they put brake fluid down as cars are on the track) or placed on tire before it goes out!
Can brake fluid be used as a tire prep?
Might be some of the same cemicals....


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 18, 2009, 10:58:46 PM
they can tell you if its napa or auto zone brake fluid. its not a sniffer its a lab telling you parts per million and stuff like that


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 18, 2009, 11:15:52 PM
clueless!!
Anyone used brake fluid as tire prep?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 18, 2009, 11:24:12 PM
im sure they will be jumping out of the woodwork letting you know! are you wondering what you need to be using or something? you sound worried


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 19, 2009, 03:25:42 PM
Dont need to be worried .
Ran there won that!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 19, 2009, 09:02:10 PM
doubt it


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 20, 2009, 02:42:38 PM
noticed the bqmra had tech and tire soaking will be enforced on the flyer. does anyone know what the punishment will be?


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 20, 2009, 03:25:05 PM
Dont you know?
Look at all your posts..... You Know Everything!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 20, 2009, 03:49:36 PM
yeah your right. thats why it says feature winner under my name and rookie under yours but anyhow im not on here to get in pissing matches with people im more of a face to face guy and trust me you dont want that!!


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: qrteracer on February 20, 2009, 04:28:43 PM
LMAO  :-*


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: ssssmoke on February 20, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
likes making ass ofhimself. good luck at your next race qrterracer!!!! its been fun i must say


Title: Re: tire treatment at indoors
Post by: LLR on February 20, 2009, 10:37:01 PM
smoke don't leave just found out who grteracer is (information came from nc) tell you sat