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Title: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: speed 53 on December 14, 2008, 09:53:31 PM
Rumor has it there is going to be two new tracks in columbus,ohio for the 2009 season to replace Mac-O-Chee and Miami Valley. Does anyone have any details?


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: Melmo on December 14, 2008, 09:57:51 PM
cool that will work can't wait!!!


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on December 15, 2008, 08:31:09 AM
There was a couple of buckeye members going to have a meeting yesterday on it.In these days who has at least250 thousand they can throw away.I hope they get it done .  I like to see stupid people do stupid stuff.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on December 16, 2008, 12:27:11 AM
They said there was 15 people at there first meetiing. That sounds like a good start to me.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on December 16, 2008, 10:23:40 AM
I'll get right on that.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on December 16, 2008, 04:26:52 PM
There is going to be a new track up north to. That will make 3 new QMA tracks for 2009.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on December 16, 2008, 05:41:39 PM
We're are all these tracks going to be?I'm just curious.Is that three qma bought tracks or 3 quarter midget racing tracks built and owned by others?


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on December 16, 2008, 07:59:53 PM
1) Columbus (They have the land and ready to go)
2)Northern Ohio (Not sure were) But they said he has land and the money
3)There working on deal now ( The people are not going to charge rent but want to look at the
    insurance and liability.
They will be owned by others and can be QMA only.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on December 16, 2008, 08:07:34 PM
deco45 i think you are full of hot air


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on December 16, 2008, 08:41:44 PM
How much money do you want to put on it? I will take your money.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: brad_tribble on December 16, 2008, 08:50:38 PM
Isn't it amazing how QMA had no interest in growth UNTIL USAC came along?  Now that there is a new game in town QMA is doing what they should have been doing all along...

Brad


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on December 16, 2008, 09:02:58 PM
 I thought 1 QMA for so many miles. Buckeye is still QMA.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on December 16, 2008, 09:23:11 PM
They like changing rules(qma)Plus you know that with only 4 reg4 qma tracks nat. needs tracks because of how much of the money they bring in from what I understand.I always thought that all reg's races were like r4 just different format until I was out east and they said they don't race reg. like we do.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on December 17, 2008, 09:38:03 AM
all along i was going to join qma along with my usac membership but seeing how they are reacting and handling things, and all the obvious personal agendas. no way!!!


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on December 17, 2008, 12:44:47 PM
I was also throwing around trying to run both series, but after seeing how personal agendas have come to the surface we will just run USAC. I don't come from any racing back ground but i've been involved with a youth organization for several years and their agendas always the best for the kids and families. I thought we did this for FUN not to see how many tracks we  can have in one location. This whole thing started to implode when QMA made it imposible to have duel charters thats why Miami Valley and Mac-O-Chee went USAC. Buckeye was thinking duel so that others from these clubs could join but again personal agenda reared it ugly head. I think that these people that start other tracks with QMA will see that people that had thought maybe running both will not be there. Lets just race and have FUN!!!


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: Barr on December 17, 2008, 01:17:31 PM
Where are all the cars going to come from to support two new tracks? We hardly have enough cars now for any track in Region 4. With the economy being as bad as it is. Good Luck!


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: brad_tribble on December 17, 2008, 01:24:59 PM
Are there really enough QM racers in the Columbus OH are to justify and support 3 tracks?  Isn't this just going to cut the car counts from Buckeye?  I think that is the main reason to not have tracks close to each other.

Brad


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: goffin20 on December 17, 2008, 04:03:33 PM
You would be suprised.  Alot of people will run all three tracks each week, Buckeye, Miami Valley and Mac-O-Chee.  Depending on the locations of the new tracks, it may be closer for some?

Again, I want to see schedules documented before I plan anything.  Talk is cheap, lets see the proof.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on December 17, 2008, 05:48:08 PM
I don't think the the people thats trying to break away from Buckeye to start other tracks will recieve to much support from the other people from different clubs. They should have tried to make duel charters work but no some have to bullies instead of working together. Again this is QMA changing rules as they see fit. Has QMA ever pulled a charter in their 50+ years and if so what were the infractions?


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on December 17, 2008, 10:18:59 PM
You know that's a good ? have they pulled any charters.Brad the three tracks buckeye,mac-o-chee and mv have always worked together and I remember when I first started you could run buckeye fri.,mv on sat, and mac-o-chee on sunday.That to me is racing traveling and racing.And those three clubs are still going to work together.It will just prove who the racers are and who aren't run 10 weekly races at buckeye and no where else do to not wanting to run usac.I'm sorry but your only going to be as good as your compition.So those that just want to run buckeye I say good luck to them.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on December 18, 2008, 12:24:39 AM
What if the membership at buckeye wants to work with the new tracks?


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on December 18, 2008, 07:21:37 AM
people are not going to jump ship and join and start running a new track they know nothing about. buckeye mv and moc are all proven tracks and will always work together because it is the same people that have been working together over the past several years. the only real difference will be tire spec at mv and moc. the only people that wants new tracks so bad is the personal agenda qma folks who have damn near turned me totally against qma. what a shame you are so narrow minded about a new sanctioning body to stiffen the competition. USAC is making you qma puppets look like jabronies.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on December 18, 2008, 11:49:37 AM
Smoke you are correct, why can't the people with the chips on their shoulders see this. People that play together stay together. Think FUN!!!


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on December 18, 2008, 12:10:59 PM
Or they have over extended there welcome at the track.Some of those people should have a back up alarm on there butt.Because they go retracking there story to the track owner.Beep....Beep......Beep.Like one of them did at the handlers meeting at buckeye.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on December 18, 2008, 01:06:13 PM
Wasn't that person affiliated with qma. ( can you say agenda )


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on December 18, 2008, 04:12:14 PM
behind the scene.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on December 30, 2008, 02:07:39 PM
I hear that the new track in Columbuus may be for Buckeye. There are members that are mad at CMS and want to move it. (Is this true Dale) 


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on December 30, 2008, 02:48:29 PM
the new track is at cms, im thinking it cost the club around 30 thousand to redo it i dont know the facts but i know enough to say that the bqmra is not going to drop that kind of money into that track and just up and leave.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on December 30, 2008, 08:08:27 PM
Smoke You are correct buckeye did sink alot of money into the race track it is on the bqmra website check it out.With all the improvements we've made this year and track and club are going no where.It will always be a quarter midget track.Notice I said quarter midgets.I wouldn't say there mad I would say ....never mind.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on January 09, 2009, 04:05:24 PM
I haven't heard any more on all those new tracks coming to Ohio, any new info. Awsome seeing Jegs sponsorship. 8) 


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 10, 2009, 09:51:42 AM
They are starting the first track 26th of January.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on January 10, 2009, 11:00:27 AM
is that a indoor track? in columbus? where can i get more info?


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on January 10, 2009, 11:45:09 AM
Will both tracks be ready for April racing and where will they be located?


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 15, 2009, 10:37:01 PM
They are pushing for two of them to be ready for april racing. They say the third one will be around the end of 2009.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on January 16, 2009, 09:17:51 AM
what happened to jan 26


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on January 16, 2009, 10:21:45 AM
Hey Ssssmoke sounds like someone is blowing smoke up your ...I like to know were there going to get cars for these three/2/1 tracks at.Buckeye had 40-50 cars at weekly.mac-o-chee had 25-35,mv had 35-45 cars if have of those people are mad at usac that would give them a basic car count of 20-30 cars $15 dollars a car $300-500 dollars a race x 10 races say 5000 a year.Sounds like a good investment to me.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: goffin20 on January 16, 2009, 10:52:20 AM
I don’t see a shortage of tracks (especially in Ohio), I see a shortage of members so I’m not sure how 3 new local tracks will benefit anyone unless they plan on racing during the week so there will be no overlap in schedules.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 17, 2009, 12:19:00 AM
They are starting to build on the 26th


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 17, 2009, 02:41:18 AM
Don't need Mac-o-chee or M.V. with two new tracks


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: smoke14 on January 17, 2009, 11:13:53 PM
I think the real question hasn't been answer.
Where are the tracks going to be located? Does anybody know the real answer or is it just rumors getting started by someone who doesn't like USAC.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on January 18, 2009, 03:25:37 AM
hey deco you are truely a moron. but dont feel bad mark wilsdon makes you look like a genius. you guys should impeach his arse he is tearing what little hope of any kind of qma racing in these parts to shreads with his hanus acts of foolishness.  bqmra will be a usac track within a month and you can take that to the bank, face it you are sore loosers and you cant handle it!!!!! sorry i have to be so harsh on here but i have heard some really idiotic things lately.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on January 18, 2009, 11:47:46 AM
This is what this sport doesn't need deco45, you dont need Mac-O-Chee or Miami Valley. I know everybody from these clubs wants to continue to race with Buckeye members like we always have  but you want to steal a club that has been built from the ground up. Buckeye voted to do duel charters but your group(qma only) is so small minded that you are driving people away that had wanted to do both are now only doing USAC. The 15 car you had to run  (all same brand) your two new tracks is fading fast. After the the way your group represinative acted friday night at indoors your can't finish it fast enough. This Is one of my main reason to join USAC is to not subject my family to this ignorance. Keep your heads up Buckeye members , we know the good from the bad!!! Great job yesterday! 


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 18, 2009, 05:29:18 PM
You guys show us who the moron are every day.You guys can go race mac-o-chee and Miami Vally. We don't need them for R-4 and we will replace them with new tracks. And if they move BUCKEYE to a new track you guys can have C.M.S for a usac track. The first round of letters came out last week and the people that got them want to cry about it but it's the same people that hates QMA and not getting there way. And now they want us to fill sorry for them, they wanted USAC. If they don't like QMA they why do they care if there not aloud to join?


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on January 18, 2009, 06:32:22 PM
deco45,you and dave young can build your tracks.More power to you I will love to see what fagnum wins that race.I'd love to come see the races.You are a suicide bomber dave tells you what to do how to say it is he your daddy little boy.Speak for your self it is the UNITED STATES of AMERICA you have free speech you don't have to ask your daddy what to say.I know it's not his money he's going to use.That's why he wants the assest of buckeye.He has nothing.Just stay tuned all you dave young people it's going to get fun.One more thing I liked my letter I got it was very nice.I'm taking my Champion and racing with the big dogs.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 18, 2009, 07:24:38 PM
LLR,is every thing in your life that goes wrong Dave Young falt? It is the UNITED STATES people can choose what they want.This is why .25 never got off the ground,because they got people like you to push it.IF Someone want to stay QMA you guys want to tell them they don't no anything about racing and want to fight about it.Go look in the mirror that is why you got a letter it's not QMA or Dave. You are right about one thing little boy the fun has just begun


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on January 18, 2009, 09:01:01 PM
silly boy usac not off the ground 1)races at Tampa,Toledo,Mac-0-chee,Event in Vegas,Okla. USAC nationals at IND.All the sponsors including Jegs that they just picked up.And yes I almost forgot two races at Columbus motor speedway.They can choose race against the best cars or race against thereselfs.Is that why everybody comes to the winternationals because no bs no Qma?And if your so Qma why are you racing there it's none qma and how about ALL the reg 4 board there yesterday?That seems a little odd.Deco I forgot  you spelled fault wrong so next time spell it correctly.see you friday.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on January 18, 2009, 09:51:28 PM
deco45, you have just cut out approximately 40 to 50 cars with a reply like that from two tracks. Where are you going to get the cars from to replace those, maybe Indiana and Michigan for weekly race? Come on, think first!!


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 19, 2009, 12:44:01 AM
LLR, how will you see me fri.? I will see you February 14


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 19, 2009, 01:09:24 AM
2fast4u, there is people from mac-o-chee and miami vally and buckeye that want a new club. The last numbers i got there was 30 familys, whats going to happen when the blacktop is down?
Now there is a new track in Toledo, right up the road from the old track who is going to be racing
in a 2 or 3 car class? If you and LLR, want to race against the best you will have to go to a QMA grands. that is were the best of the best is going to be.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: LLR on January 19, 2009, 09:11:42 AM
deco45,the best racers in AMERICA come to the winternationals......................None QMA.Since you will see me feb.14 come talk to me.I'd love to chat.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on January 19, 2009, 09:43:34 AM
deco45, who ever told you 30 multiplied that by 3 or 5 because i talk to alot of competitors and 6-10 say they might run both but i think that number is shrinking. I believe you would recieve a better welcoming if you started a new club not try to take one. Take a page from USAC, start from scratch and be open to both. The best kid will be in both series, not one or the other and this weekend proved that.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on January 19, 2009, 01:42:06 PM
deco45, taking shots at other clubs is only showing you are not very intellegent. people have a choice in what they want to run, hearing and seeing people take shots at other people (eg. mr. rankin getting thrown out of qma for no reason what so ever) is only making the hole in qma sinking ship bigger. so here is an idea start by learning how to read. 2. get the book qm racing for dummies ( the dummy being you). 3. read it 4. think about all the good people in this sport 5. then you will realize nobody gives a rats ass what you think. 6. then think about what you could do good for this sport rather you do it in qma or usac i dont care!!! but dont talk about people at other tracks like you dont need them.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: gadams on January 19, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
here is my two cents on this whole subject, this is coming from a new racers father, i thought the usac forum should be where usac topics and helpful info is sought. This should not be a place to bash qma or other people who you dont get along with, just like when they get the qma forum back up it should not be a place to bash usac. I will say i'm a supporter of kids racing not the politics of either series. Two series fighting for members is only going to create two bad series in this area, where as two series working together will only make better racing and participation. I was always taught to lead by example, if this is the example, this area is in a sad state of affairs. I think it's sad when people are looked down on because of who they do buisness with or because they drive chassis x , or are friends with person b. What i saw this past weekend were kids playing and being friendly with each other. Maybe some parents should take lessons.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: goffin20 on January 20, 2009, 01:35:42 AM
gadams,  was the "chassis x" comment made in reference to Brand X Chassis?  ;-)


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on January 20, 2009, 09:56:21 AM
scott im sure it wasnt, i thought the same thing for a minute. he is new


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: gadams on January 20, 2009, 06:12:52 PM
no i was using a letter to represent any chassis made not brand x,nc,magnum,stanley,eagle. I'm sorry if i came across as pointing out a specific chassis i forgot about brand x when i wrote that


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: goffin20 on January 21, 2009, 11:29:35 AM
LOL, ;-)

Just had to throw a plug out there for Tom...


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 25, 2009, 02:17:06 PM
The first new QMA track is under way.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: grandma13 on January 25, 2009, 02:23:37 PM
Very good Deco45 right now though you are fighting some snow looks like a couple of inches.  I wish the new track all the best.  Give the quarter midgets another choice to run hope it does go well.


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: Phil on January 25, 2009, 02:55:44 PM
 Thats great news, a new track! No property, no asphalt, no racing charter...oops and was given voting rights at the presidents meeting. This wouldn't be against the rules would it?

I would read the racing charter guidelines and the non racing charter guidelines a little closer.

Phil
 


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on January 26, 2009, 09:12:22 AM
Where will the Columbus track be located, does anybody know?


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on January 26, 2009, 10:03:57 AM
yeah its at the cms its not really new its newly paved. there is no others!!!!


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: deco45 on January 28, 2009, 02:44:07 AM
WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: ssssmoke on January 28, 2009, 11:56:23 PM
breakin nuwz!!!! i found that new track, seen sum shoppin carts in a big circle at the wall marts down yonder, i thunk thatz it!!!!


Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: goffin20 on January 29, 2009, 12:07:07 AM
Funny!

If they are starting up in April, there should be something filed soon.  Type Quarter Midget, QMA or .25 in the Business name search field, maybe you'll catch it when its filed.

http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/portal/PORTAL_BS.BS_QRY_BUS_INFORMATION1.SHOW_PARMS



Title: Re: TWO NEW QMA TRACKS FOR COLUMBUS,OHIO
Post by: 2fast4u on January 29, 2009, 08:26:44 AM
I agree ssssmoke, there is no new track coming to Columbus, deco45 is a group of members from the Buckeye club that is tring to split the club to put their personal agenda in play.