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General Chat => Point .25 => Topic started by: sfreitas20 on January 27, 2010, 10:50:53 PM



Title: Shocks
Post by: sfreitas20 on January 27, 2010, 10:50:53 PM
Ok, so I have heard so many people's versions of what are the best so I figured why not hear some more versions...

Tanner, ARS, VRP...etc...which do you feel are the best shocks and what makes them better than the others?  When we started at our track just about every car ran Tanners, now about half run ARS.  There are one or two cars on something other than that, but that is about it.


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: miketsmith on January 27, 2010, 11:37:01 PM
I have only ran ARS. Do not know the difference.

Mike


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: ssssmoke on January 28, 2010, 12:17:17 AM
im sure you will get several different opinions but the best shock is...... the one you get to work.


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: Walker23 on January 28, 2010, 11:20:32 AM
The quality of the shock depends on the forces you are obtaining and how each shock controls those forces at each wheel. Each track will give out different forces and frequencies. I have 2 cars and between the 2 cars I have 4 makes of shocks on them. But this is a result of several days of dyno testing around 20 different shocks









Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: miketsmith on January 28, 2010, 06:05:50 PM
Can I borrow some money to buy that many shocks, LOL. I am still paying for the air in my tires.

Thanks,
Mike


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: sprintcar39 on January 28, 2010, 07:17:39 PM
MotionX - Really...now really?

I use ARS  R3 on all 4 corners of every car we race. Same shock at all tracks. The shocks on my SR Honda car are 2 years old and have never...never been touched. I know that is not a good practice...but I wanted to see how long they would last and..."if it aint broke dont fix it"

Eric


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: Walker23 on January 28, 2010, 11:11:15 PM
3 cars =12 shocks + various other shock acquired as spares.

I do use the same shocks on all tracks.



Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: sfreitas20 on February 01, 2010, 01:09:30 PM
Eric...you ran r3s down here in Tampa when you raced here too?


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: goffin20 on February 11, 2010, 01:30:51 AM
Jr. Honda, Sr. Honda, Lt. 160, Lt. AA, Lt. WF ARS #3's all around.  The only track that we ever changed anything was for Mini Indy we put a #4 on the RF.


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: miketsmith on February 12, 2010, 02:07:56 PM
Eric, did you have any problems with putting your animal on your car after taking a Honda off? I called Stanley and they said they thought you had one and did not have any issues. 1-770-894-7614

Thanks,
Mike


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: sprintcar39 on February 12, 2010, 02:41:13 PM
Mike,   How are you trying to put you animal   "ON"  your Stanley Car. If you remove the four bolts holding your Honda engine in, then pull it upwards it will easily come out of your car. Then re-use the bolts from your Honda and put them in the four holes on the Animal. Then slowly lower it into place allowing the four bolts to go thru the engine plate. Be sure to install four nuts on the bolts to secure the engine in place...after adjusting the chain. I think that you can handle it from here.

And yes it fits in a Stanley car with no problem at all.

LMAO  -  man I am so glad it is Friday and I get to go racing.

Eric


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: sfreitas20 on February 12, 2010, 04:11:06 PM
I actually couldn't get the Animal in our Stanley easily.  I would have had to move the gas tank (which would have required modifying the tailcone) and cut one of the cross bars behind the firewall for it to fit.  We are trying to sell that car to buy another Nervo, so we just dropped the Animal in the Nervo and are running the Honda in our Stanley.


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: miketsmith on February 12, 2010, 09:13:07 PM
Like I said, I finally got it in. The problem was that the plate on top of the engine that is used for WKA purposes, was still on my engine. This plate kept the engine from going forward enough for it to slide back and forth for the chain adjustment. Sitting on the pit-cart, we still have to use a pull rope to start it. I was hoping after hearing everyone talk, that it was going to start like the Honda's. I guess what they were referring to was pushing it off.

Thanks,
Mike Smith


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: sfreitas20 on February 12, 2010, 10:37:51 PM
Ours starts on the pit cart just like our honda, with a quick spin of the right rear tire.  On the track, it is different than the Honda though.  You need to get it going pretty good with the switch off, then have your driver hit the switch and then ease into the throttle and it should fire up.


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: miketsmith on February 12, 2010, 10:47:13 PM
Do you have to pick the back end up like the stocker or just get it rolling and then hit the switch?

Thanks,
Mike


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: sfreitas20 on February 12, 2010, 11:08:10 PM
Just get it rolling and hit the switch.  We haven't had to pick it up off the ground.


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: Barr on February 13, 2010, 12:42:56 AM
We pick ours up, seems to help get it to turn over, and get it rolling a little better. Plus it allows me to get a running start


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: CrewChief6 on February 13, 2010, 01:48:30 AM
We found a few things to get it started on the track easily.

One, you've got to warm it up shortly before the race.

Two, and this is for cold starts also, you have to go light on the throttle to start and ease into the gas. If you mash the gas, you'll flood the carb, resulting in a difficult crank on the pit cart, or a jerky "start" on the track. The hardest thing was for our driver to feel just the right amount of gas to give it. It's really just a touch to get it going, then slowly easing into the throttle.

Three, flip the switch after you get going.

Four, when you're pushing off, follow through even if it sounds like it's cranking. A some downforce helps. (I'm short, and I couldn't get the right angle downward. But taller folks seem to have no problems). Having two people pushing helps.

Once you get the hang of it, you shouldn't have to lift the car to start.


Title: Re: Shocks
Post by: miketsmith on February 13, 2010, 09:37:14 PM
Thanks for all the tips from everyone. It almost sounds like the Deco Stocker when pushing it off. Like I said in an earlier reply, Wanted, young strong legs for the 2010 season. We are running both, animal and stocker. keep us in your prayer's. LOL

Thanks,
Mike